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I'll second that. As one who rarely rtfm, this morning I went to do
an installation on a colleague's machine using the latest version
and had a very frustrating time. <br>
<br>
The steps I took (which I think are natural ones...but that's my
opinion):<br>
1) went to admb-project.org<br>
2) clicked on downloads<br>
3) saw 9.1 in "navigation panel"<br>
4) thought I should get newer version (maybe a bad thought) so went
back<br>
5) clicked on 10.1 released in news but then no live links so cut
and pasted <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:
separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman';
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;"><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse;
color: rgb(118, 121, 124); font-family: 'Lucida
Grande',Verdana,Lucida,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:
13px; line-height: 18px;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.admb-project.org/downloads">http://www.admb-project.org/downloads</a></span></span><br>
6) got back to step 3)...wtf...<br>
7) went to IDE pages (was what I was after anyway)<br>
8) got 64 bit version<br>
9) installed it on a fast govt 64-bit machine<br>
10) tested it and it ran about 4 times slower than my own personal
laptop running <br>
11) the "new" version also is missing version number when using the
-? option.<br>
<br>
Whole thing shouldn't be so crappy.<br>
<br>
And why so slow? Compile times and run times using gcc 4.5.2.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
On 6/29/2011 11:19 AM, Ian Taylor wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Developers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I just got an email from somebody who was
having trouble installing ADMB. In my experience it’s very
smooth and easy, but I think he was hampered by lack of clear
instructions. I’m sure folks are working on improving the
instructions, but at the moment, things are pretty confusing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The average new user is probably using
Windows and surely doesn’t want to mess with source code.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If they go to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://admb-project.org/documentation">http://admb-project.org/documentation</a>
there are no longer installation instructions, just
README.txt. If you open that file, you have to scroll through
a lot of text, past all the instructions for installing from
source code for a half-dozen system s to get distributions,
which says <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 0.5in;">Binary
installation instructions can be found at
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.admb-project.org/documentation/">"http://www.admb-project.org/documentation/"</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">which is no longer accurate.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you type “install” into the search box
on the ADMB site, you get a nice list, including links to the
nice old installation for various systems, including clear
steps and figures, but the links on these pages still point to
installers for version 9.1.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also, in the past I think the MinGW
installation was described as the “recommended” version. At
the moment, I think that for Windows users this is still much
easier to install than the versions for Visual C++ or Borland,
so might it make sense to still make a suggestion to help new
users who may have no idea abo ut which
Another option would be a simple table listing features or
trade-offs of the different Windows versions to help people
pick one.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Ian<o:p></o:p></p>
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