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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the recent exchange of messages about ADMB on a Unix platform, I still don’t have a response to the note attached below. I have two questions, each with a simple yes/no answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1. Will you continue to support “make install” as part of a build from source?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2. Will you update the recent documentation at <a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/QuickStartUnix.html">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/QuickStartUnix.html</a> to include this option in Step 6?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If the answer is “No” to either question, I’d appreciate knowing why.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Probably Johnoel needs to give the definitive reply to these two questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> developers-bounces@admb-project.org [mailto:developers-bounces@admb-project.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Schnute<br><b>Sent:</b> February-22-14 5:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Johnoel Ancheta'; 'bigA'<br><b>Cc:</b> developers@admb-project.org; 'Grandin, Chris'; 'Haigh, Rowan'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Developers] [ADMB Users] ADMB in standard package formats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for updating and documenting the procedure for using ADMB on Unix platforms. I’ve been testing it myself recently.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can step 6 (Optional — Installation) still be accomplished with the single command:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[~/admb/]$ make install<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I tried this with ADMB release 1651 in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and it worked. It also worked on a Mac. For consistency with other packages in Unix, I suggest that you maintain and document this standard method of installation. (Of course, it’s also helpful to mention that this procedure copies “~/admb/build/dist” to “ /usr/local/admb”.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As a developer of R software that uses ADMB, I find it very helpful to have the software on a standard path (such as /usr/local/admb). From that point of view, I think we should recommend step 6 as a normal (not optional) part of the process for general users. What could be simpler than “make install”? Only ADMB experts should deal with their own paths and environment variables.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org">users-bounces@admb-project.org</a> [<a href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org">mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnoel Ancheta<br><b>Sent:</b> February-21-14 12:03 PM<br><b>To:</b> bigA<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:users@admb-project.org">users@admb-project.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ADMB Users] ADMB in standard package formats<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The build process has changed. Check the link below.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/QuickStartUnix.html">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/QuickStartUnix.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It should be simpler and easier for everyone, but may need some fine tuning.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Feedback from Barak Pearlmutter was used for the the changes. Such as the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>eliminating the need to set System Variables. Although, it will still work if they<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>are set.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you would like to contribute man pages, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Johnoel<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:57 AM, bigA <<a href="mailto:jaguar.smart@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaguar.smart@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I can work the man page; I have thus far been responsible for it.<br>I assume we don't want to write a 5460 line beast of a man page;<br>however any content that people want included in the man page shown in<br>the Debian package.<br>Honestly, I think that focusing on the standard Linux build process<br>and including the man page in the default build process will make<br>getting admb into the standard linux pipeline.<br>Barak Pearlmutter is probably a critical resource for this activity;<br>however he cannot work on this alone. Has anyone looked at the<br>patches he has suggested? If the build process needs to be cleaned up,<br>who within admb<br>is willing to work with us on it?<br><br>Aaron<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Arni Magnusson <<a href="mailto:arnima@hafro.is">arnima@hafro.is</a>> wrote:<br>> Our priority should be to release ADMB in standard package formats: Debian,<br>> Gentoo, RPM, and Mac.<br>><br>> This will make ADMB much more visible and accessible for scientists in all<br>> disciplines. Package repositories are categorized, so ADMB would be listed<br>> on autogenerated lists of scientific and statistical software for Linux, for<br>> example. These lists are copied to Wikipedia, blogs, newsletters, etc.<br>><br>> Packaging means adapting the build procedure to Linux standards (we may be<br>> there already), writing a short man page, and filling out a basic template<br>> file for each package format. Please consider participating in the ongoing<br>> effort:<br>><br>> <a href="http://admb-project.org/developers/packaging" target="_blank">http://admb-project.org/developers/packaging</a><br>><br>> Arni<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Users mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Users@admb-project.org">Users@admb-project.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Users@admb-project.org">Users@admb-project.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>