[ADMB Users] AD Model Builder and R
mmaunder at iattc.org
Mon Dec 15 12:41:36 PST 2008
I guess the Rbugs project would be a place to start the discussions. Do people want something like that and is it feasible?
From: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:10 PM
To: Schnute, Jon
Cc: Mark Maunder; Kery Marc; users at admb-project.org; Haigh, Rowan; Michael Prager
Subject: Re: [ADMB Users] AD Model Builder and R
Perhaps someone could clarify what is meant by an "R interface to ADMB"?
Communication of data between R and admb applications is easily done
with ascii files. This is what Anders Nielsen and I do for all of our
track reconstruction software. Pierre Kleiber has written R packages to
interact with MULTIFAN-CL. This approach is fast and platform
independent. So I'm not sure what you are asking for.
Mike Prager has created some software that he calls "middleware" for
examining ADMB output. I haven't taken the opportunity to examine Mike's
utilities, but the information on the website suggests it might be very
Creation of installation scripts and of an IDE for developing admb
application are separate issues that should not depend on R. The Inno
installer that Dave created is a promising start for Windows
installations and will be developed further. Also we have had some
positive results from preliminary tests of NetBeans for creation of an
So, lets hear some feedback on what is meant by an "R interface to ADMB".
Schnute, Jon wrote:
> Mark and colleagues - This note is a reply to a message forwarded to me by Mark Maunder. I'm addressing a question by Marc Kery: "Any chance that someone might develop an R interface [to ADMB]?"
> You may or may not know that, with the help of colleagues here, I've developed several packages for R in recent years. Three of them are currently available on CRAN http://cran.r-project.org/. Each package name begins with "PBS" for the Pacific Biological Station, where I still work as a retired scientist.
> We're now developing a package (PBSadmb) designed to support ADMB within R. It will have a GUI interface, and it should make installation of ADMB fairly easy for R users. Hopefully, it will work on all platforms that support R, as long as the ADMB Project distributes the corresponding binary libraries.
> See the attached PDF file for a picture of the current (rather primitive) interface. It may take a while for us to support multiple version of Open ADMB, but I'll send a notice to all ADMB users (users at admb-project.org) when PBSadmb is available.
> Best wishes,
> Jon Schnute, Scientist Emeritus
> Pacific Biological Station
> 3190 Hammond Bay Road
> Nanaimo, BC V9T 6N7
> NEW email: Jon.Schnute at dfo-mpo.gc.ca
> (formerly schnutej at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Maunder [mailto:mmaunder at iattc.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:13 PM
> To: Kery Marc
> Cc: Arni Magnusson; Schnute, Jon
> Subject: RE: AD Model Builder now free
> I guess that there will be some form of integration with R because many of the current ADMB users also use R. We have a couple of people involved in the initial stages who have a lot more R knowledge than I do. Hopefully, they will be motivated to make the necessary developments.
> Currently there are DLLs for R, but few people use them.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kery Marc [mailto:marc.kery at vogelwarte.ch]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:37 PM
> To: Mark Maunder
> Subject: AW: AD Model Builder now free
> Hi Mark,
> any chance that someone might develop an R interface ?
> Regards -- Marc
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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> [mailto:bounce-3381192-3455202 at list.cornell.edu]Im Auftrag von Mark
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2008 21:31
> An: euring-l at cornell.edu
> Betreff: AD Model Builder now free
> The most widely used software package for the development of
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> or ADMB, can now be downloaded without charge from a public website,
> ADMB-based computer models are used globally to monitor populations of
> many endangered and commercially valuable species, to develop
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> of animals tracked with electronic tags. ADMB- based stock assessments
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> stocks worth billions of dollars as well as ecologically sensitive
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