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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13-06-14 04:25 PM, Ian Taylor - NOAA
      Federal wrote:<br>
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      Well I was, but this was for the unwashed at the American
      Statistical Society Meeting in Baltimore<br>
      where we sold $0 worth of software.  My wife came along as my
      keeper. We called it Ma and Pa <br>
      software (in our heads).<br>
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cite="mid:CAOUH9r5Sfnf=DtXb503znubzQRSy99VBkAeJ_Jh6SNP3ieyi-Q@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">What?!?
        <div style="">You aren't all satisfied spending hours staring at
          tables of gradients of transformed parameters moving across
          the screen? Or MCMC acceptance rates?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:02 PM, dave
          fournier <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:davef@otter-rsch.com" target="_blank">davef@otter-rsch.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>On 13-06-14 02:33 PM, bigA wrote:<br>
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                I did this a long time ago using Java. That is why there
                are a bunch of java references in the code.<br>
                But Sun kept changing the JNI and breaking my code so I
                gave up on it.  <br>
                <br>
                Another simple way to have real time graphics  is via a
                named pipe and using R for the graphics.  I did this<br>
                with Pierre Kleiber using S intead of R about 20 years
                ago on some kind of unix box.<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Just a follow up to what Dave
                      suggested about things to talk about at the
                      developer meeting.
                      <div>I don't know how people feel about
                        potentially adding limited read time plotting
                        capability to admb. </div>
                      <div>There are several c++ libraries that may make
                        that not particularly difficult.  <br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I think the idea should be to provide simple
                        line graphs and scatter plotting routines, not
                        provide "publication" quality graphics.<br>
                        <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://gitorious.org/realtimeplot"
                            target="_blank">http://gitorious.org/realtimeplot</a></div>
                        <div>I realize that realtimeplot is licensed
                          under the GPL; if there is interest and it is
                          needed I could try to find a good library that
                          is BSD licensed.<br>
                          Obviously there are things like KST that can
                          partially solve this problem at the expense of
                          having to write data to files. </div>
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                      <div>However, sometimes I think it would be cool
                        to be able watch admb work.   </div>
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                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://kst-plot.kde.org/"
                          target="_blank">http://kst-plot.kde.org/</a><br>
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                      <div>Aaron</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at
                        11:34 AM, Mark Maunder <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:mmaunder@iattc.org"
                            target="_blank">mmaunder@iattc.org</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">What

                                  is </span>ASC?<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org"
                                    target="_blank">users-bounces@admb-project.org</a>
                                  [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org"
                                    target="_blank">users-bounces@admb-project.org</a>]
                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Methot -
                                  NOAA Federal<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 14, 2013
                                  10:58 AM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> Mark Payne<br>
                                  <b>Cc:</b> Kasper Kristensen; Athol
                                  Whitten; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:users@admb-project.org"
                                    target="_blank">users@admb-project.org</a>;
                                  Andre Punt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:developers@admb-project.org" target="_blank">developers@admb-project.org</a>;
                                  Laurie Kell; Dave Fournier; Rishi
                                  Sharma; Polina Levontin<br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ADMB Users] ADMB
                                  meeting in Reykjavik - Doodle Poll</span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">I support
                                      having a short session during ASC.</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun
                                        14, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Mark Payne
                                        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:mpa@aqua.dtu.dk"
                                          target="_blank">mpa@aqua.dtu.dk</a>>

                                        wrote:</p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Have you
                                        considered having a users
                                        session on the side of the ASC -
                                        after all, there will be many of
                                        the ICES users there....
                                        Wednesday afternoon is usually
                                        free for that sort of thing. And
                                        it might be nice for some of us
                                        non-developers to chat with you,
                                        hear future directions, and give
                                        feedback....<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Mark<br>
________________________________________<br>
                                        Fra: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org" target="_blank">users-bounces@admb-project.org</a>
                                        [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org"
                                          target="_blank">users-bounces@admb-project.org</a>]
                                        p&#229; vegne af Arni
                                        Magnusson [<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:arnima@hafro.is"
                                          target="_blank">arnima@hafro.is</a>]<br>
                                        Sendt: 13. juni 2013 23:07<br>
                                        Til: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:developers@admb-project.org" target="_blank">developers@admb-project.org</a>;
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:users@admb-project.org"
                                          target="_blank">users@admb-project.org</a></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Cc: Athol
                                          Whitten; Rishi Sharma; Andre
                                          Punt; Dave Fournier; Kasper
                                          Kristensen; Laurie Kell;
                                          Polina Levontin</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">Emne: [ADMB
                                        Users] ADMB meeting in Reykjavik
                                        - Doodle Poll</p>
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                                            Dear friends,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            The upcoming ADMB
                                            Developers' workshop in
                                            Reykjavik in September was<br>
                                            discussed a bit at the ADMB
                                            Foundation board meeting
                                            last week. There are<br>
                                            two other relevant
                                            conferences taking place in
                                            Reykjavik in the same<br>
                                            month:<br>
                                            <br>
                                               12-14 Sep (Thu-Sat), LGM
                                            conference in Reykjavik<br>
                                               <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://sites.google.com/site/lgm2013ice/" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/site/lgm2013ice/</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                               23-27 Sep (Mon-Fri), ICES
                                            conference in Reykjavik<br>
                                               <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ices.dk/news-and-events/asc/ASC-2013/Pages/default.aspx"
                                              target="_blank">http://ices.dk/news-and-events/asc/ASC-2013/Pages/default.aspx</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                            Initially, we (Anders, Arni,
                                            Hans) scheduled the ADMB
                                            meeting 8-11<br>
                                            September, just prior to the
                                            LGM conference. Now that our
                                            LGM abstract has<br>
                                            been rejected, our focus is
                                            shifting to the ICES
                                            conference.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            It seems likely that some
                                            ADMB-oriented people might
                                            attend the ICES<br>
                                            conference. To make it
                                            practical to visit Iceland
                                            and attend both the ADMB<br>
                                            and ICES events, we could
                                            shift the ADMB meeting to be
                                            just before or<br>
                                            after the ICES meeting.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            ---<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Therefore, I have set up a
                                            Doodle Poll:<br>
                                            <br>
                                               <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://doodle.com/dx5et3fe4dfp2d48" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/dx5et3fe4dfp2d48</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                            Please mark the days that
                                            you would _prefer_. If there
                                            are days you<br>
                                            _cannot_ make it, please
                                            email me so I can take that
                                            into account. Ignore<br>
                                            this poll if you don't plan
                                            to attend. Feel free to
                                            forward this email to<br>
                                            others.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            At the end of the poll, we
                                            are looking for a 4-day slot
                                            for the ADMB<br>
                                            meeting.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            The range between 17 Sep and
                                            1 Oct would be practical for
                                            anyone planning<br>
                                            to attend both the ADMB and
                                            ICES events. If I'm the only
                                            one attending<br>
                                            both, there may be no
                                            practical reason to shift
                                            the ADMB meeting.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Let's finish this poll
                                            before Wednesday (19 June)
                                            and make a decision.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Looking forward to welcoming
                                            you to Iceland this autumn,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Arni<br>
                                            <br>
                                            P.S. If you urgently need a
                                            reason to attend the ICES
                                            conference, I can<br>
                                            add you as a coauthor on a
                                            simple paper that's been
                                            accepted in Session Q<br>
                                            on Bayesian methods. Your
                                            contribution would be in the
                                            introduction and<br>
                                            discussion sections. This
                                            might help convince your
                                            employer about the need<br>
                                            to travel to Reykjavik this
                                            autumn.<br>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
                                      <b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666">Richard

                                          D. Methot Jr. Ph.D.</span></b><br>
                                      <i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666">NOAA

                                          Fisheries - </span></i><i><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666">Science

                                          Advisor for Stock Assessments</span></i></p>
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