<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>My experience of the mingw compiler is that with it ADMB fails to diagnose singular or near singular hessians. This is a minefield for inexperienced users and in my opinion it should not be supported. Has no one else seen this issue?</div><div>Alex</div><div><br>On 21 Nov 2013, at 10:36 am, Ian Taylor - NOAA Federal <<a href="mailto:ian.taylor@noaa.gov">ian.taylor@noaa.gov</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Johnoel and Jon,<div>Everything worked fine building with the r1353 files using both an existing MinGW and also downloaded using get-mingw.bat (which takes a while, but worked fine).</div><div><br></div><div>

I like the "quick start" instructions better than the plain text file and it seems easier to maintain than the instructions on Plone (which should presumably be removed soon).</div><div><br></div><div>I did note that the link at the top of the MinGW to the Visual C++ instructions (which I didn't try) fails due to case sensitivity. The first fails and the second works:</div>

<div><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/QuickStartVisualC++.html">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/QuickStartVisualC++.html</a><br></div><div><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/quickstartvisualc++.html">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/quickstartvisualc++.html</a><br>

</div><div><br></div><div>-Ian</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Johnoel Ancheta <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnoel@hawaii.edu" target="_blank">johnoel@hawaii.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">That was fixed use<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/snapshots/admb-r1353-src.zip" style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:10px;text-align:center" target="_blank">admb-r1353-src.zip</a><br>


</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/snapshots/admb-r1353-src.zip" target="_blank">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/snapshots/admb-r1353-src.zip</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Or </div>

<div><br></div>
<div>svn update</div><div><br></div><div>Please provide feedback.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Ian Taylor - NOAA Federal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.taylor@noaa.gov" target="_blank">ian.taylor@noaa.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jon,<div>I got the identical error running using the same files but with my existing MinGW installation in place.</div>


<span><font color="#888888"><div>-Ian</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Jon Schnute <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:schnutej-dfo@shaw.ca" target="_blank">schnutej-dfo@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>




<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks, Johnoel (and also Ian). I got the latest version of ADMB from your link at<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/snapshots/admb-latest.zip" target="_blank">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/snapshots/admb-latest.zip</a>. <u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Then I carefully followed your latest instructions  at<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/quickstartwindows.html" target="_blank">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/quickstartwindows.html</a>,<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">where I even used your specified path C:\admb. Unfortunately, “make” stills fails with the final commands shown below:<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">******* Final commands<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">g++ -c -O3 -Wall -DSAFE_ALL -D__GNUDOS__ -Dlinux -D__SPDLL__ -DUSE_LAPLACE -I..\<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">build\dist\include -o..\build\objects\dist\saflp-linad99-xgradclc.obj linad99\xg<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">radclc.cpp<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">g++ -c -O3 -Wall -DOPT_LIB -D__GNUDOS__ -Dlinux -D__SPDLL__ -DUSE_LAPLACE -I..\b<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">uild\dist\include -o..\build\objects\dist\optlp-nh99-adsleep.obj nh99\adsleep.cp<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">p<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">g++ -c -O3 -Wall -DOPT_LIB -D__GNUDOS__ -Dlinux -D__SPDLL__ -DUSE_LAPLACE -I..\b<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">uild\dist\include -o..\build\objects\dist\optlp-nh99-amoeba.obj nh99\amoeba.cpp<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">g++ -c -O3 -Wall -DOPT_LIB -D__GNUDOS__ -Dlinux -D__SPDLL__ -DUSE_LAPLACE -I..\b<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">uild\dist\include -DADMB_VERSION=11.1 -DADMB_REVISION=Unversioned directory -o..<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">\build\objects\dist\optlp-nh99-banner.obj nh99\banner.cpp<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">




<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">g++: error: directory: No such file or directory<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">make[1]: *** [..\build\objects\dist\optlp-nh99-banner.obj] Error 1<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/admb/src'<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">make: *** [g++-all] Error 2<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">******* End final commands<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This time the procedure got one step beyond amoeba.cpp, but failed at banner.cpp. I checked to verify that “banner.cpp” actually exists in the directory C:\admb\src\nh99; it does. I can’t understand how dozens (or hundreds?) of commands can work fine, but then fail at this particular step.<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ian, thanks for your offer to run tests. If you have a chance, I’d very much like to know if you get this same error when you follow the same steps that I did.<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>




<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>




<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org" target="_blank">users-bounces@admb-project.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:users-bounces@admb-project.org" target="_blank">users-bounces@admb-project.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johnoel Ancheta<br>




<b>Sent:</b> November-18-13 5:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> ADMB Users<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ADMB Users] Please test updated installation documentation.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div>



<p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Thank you all for testing and providing feedback.  I was able to duplicate and resolve the issue.</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">




<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The problem was user system PATH having sh.exe or bash.exe in it.  This caused the build files <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">




<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to use Unix commands like cp or rm instead of copy or del for Windows.  The fixes have been <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">




<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">committed to version control.  Please update your copy and test the procedures in<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">




<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/" target="_blank">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>




</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As always, thank you for providing feedback.<u></u><u></u></span></p>




</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>




</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Johnoel<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p>




<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Johnoel Ancheta <<a href="mailto:johnoel@hawaii.edu" target="_blank">johnoel@hawaii.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>




<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I've updated the ADMB build and installation documentation.  Please<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">try them out and provide feedback.<u></u><u></u></p>




</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/" target="_blank">http://www.admb-project.org/buildbot/documentation/</a><u></u><u></u></p>




</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Johnoel<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>




</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Users mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Users@admb-project.org">Users@admb-project.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>