[Developers] ADMB availability

Thu Dec 10 11:46:55 PST 2009

The availability of ADMB should be updated in the manual.

"16.8 How to order AD Model Builder"

Mark

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[mailto:developers-bounces at admb-project.org] On Behalf Of John Sibert
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:11 AM
To: Hans Julius Skaug
Cc: developers at admb-project.org
Subject: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection

Hi Hans -

Your proposed categories seem like an excellent and practical way to 
start. I'm sure adjustments can be made as this project proceeds.

As I understand the change in the website, most of the changes will 
occur in the css files, and existing content will be simply reformatted.

The text on the "home" page will be redrafted, however.

Cheers,
John

Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I will try to populate Examples rather quickly, altthough only with
categories
> in the beginning. What about the following categories?
>  
> Scientific discipline
>   -> Ecology
>   -> Economics/econometrics
>   -> Fisheries 
>   -> Genetics/Bioinformatics
>   -> Medical/Biometrics 
>   -> Sociology
> Simple examples
> Mark-recapcture
> Growth models
> Stock assessment
> Spatial models
> State space models
> GLM (Generalized linear models)
> GLMM (Generalized linear mixed models)
> Survivial analysis
> Differential equations
> Categorial data
>  
> Any other topics?
>  
> John: will existing pages be re-styled automatically, or is it effient
to wait
> until the new look for the webpages is in place?
>  
> Hans
>
>  
> ________________________________
>
> Fra: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
> Sendt: ti 08.12.2009 18:05
> Til: Hans Julius Skaug
> Kopi: developers at admb-project.org
> Emne: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>
>
>
> Hi Hans,
> The Examples tab is now on-line.
>
> A agree with you about creating a model taxonomy. We should think
about
> ways to feature models on our site that have  capabilities not
otherwise
> available in the other packages. You seem to have proposed a
> two-dimensional taxonmy. Your first dimension is general classes of
> application and your second is ADMB features. We might consider adding
> scientific discipline to the first axis. New potential users may
stumble
> into the site and wonder "What can this do for me as an ecologist (or
> sociologist, ...)?"
>
> Thanks for taking this on.
> John
>
> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>   
>> John,
>>
>> Yes, I will take a lead on this, but moving all the examples
>> may take time. And yes, it is good to take
>> this as a part of the bigger descussion about web site design.
>>
>> I am in favor of placing the examples on a top level,
>> but a second level is also OK. An equally important
>> question is how to create a model taxonomy. My suggestion is
>> to use fairly wide topics, like differential equations, growth
curves, etc.
>> I imagine 10 - 20 topics on this level. The sublevels are harder
>> to imagine.
>>
>> The alternative is to create topics that are closer
>> to the inner working of ADMB: funnels, random effects,
>> mcmc etc. I my opinion that is more natural in the user manual,
>> but not so much at the website.
>>
>> Suggestion: use the former taxonomy, and lest every posted model have
>> a short ingress telling which ADMB features are being used.
>> People put models on their own web-pages, and post
>> the ingress (containing and url) to the mailing list, where it is
picked
>> up by us (me) and posted on our web site. At a later stage
>> the example can be fully uploaded to our website.
>>
>> Hans
>>  
>>
>>  
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:50 PM
>>> To: Hans Julius Skaug
>>> Cc: developers at admb-project.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>>
>>> Seems like a good idea to me (especially if Hans is willing to take
on
>>> the job).
>>>
>>> Before creating yet another tab, though, it is worth
>>> considering whether
>>> the current organization of material is what we want. We are
>>> creating a
>>> new "look" for admb-project.org which should be available for
>>> inspection
>>> in a couple of weeks. It will eliminate the tabs (which many feel
are
>>> rater clunky) in favor of a more conventional menu list on the
>>> left. You
>>> can see a preliminary version of the new site
>>>
http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/Illust/admb_dev/admb-project-template.htm
>>> (It has change a lot since this version, but the layout will be
>>> similar.) So now is a good time to think about the
>>> organization of stuff
>>> on the site.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Examples (with admb files) are scattered around the website,
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>> and are not
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> very visible. This issue has been raised from time to time.
>>>>
>>>> What about creating an Examples tab at the top level (along
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>> with Documentation, Courses, etc)?
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> Second: agree on some kind of taxonomy of models. Third:
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>> maintain a list of
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> pointers to webpages where people put up their own models on
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>> their own webpages.
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> If we agree, and the tab is created, then I will take on
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>> moving/organizing all the random effects examples.
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> Hans
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>>>>  
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> John Sibert
>>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>>
>>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>    
>>>       
>>  
>>     
>
> --
> John Sibert
> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>
> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>
>
>
>
>   

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