[Developers] ADMB availability
John Sibert
sibert at hawaii.edu
Thu Dec 10 12:06:58 PST 2009
We are in the process of revising the manuals. I fix it after we receive
the revisions from the LaTeX consultant.
Mark Maunder wrote:
> The availability of ADMB should be updated in the manual.
>
> "16.8 How to order AD Model Builder"
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: developers-bounces at admb-project.org
> [mailto:developers-bounces at admb-project.org] On Behalf Of John Sibert
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:11 AM
> To: Hans Julius Skaug
> Cc: developers at admb-project.org
> Subject: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>
> Hi Hans -
>
> Your proposed categories seem like an excellent and practical way to
> start. I'm sure adjustments can be made as this project proceeds.
>
> As I understand the change in the website, most of the changes will
> occur in the css files, and existing content will be simply reformatted.
>
> The text on the "home" page will be redrafted, however.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I will try to populate Examples rather quickly, altthough only with
>>
> categories
>
>> in the beginning. What about the following categories?
>>
>> Scientific discipline
>> -> Ecology
>> -> Economics/econometrics
>> -> Fisheries
>> -> Genetics/Bioinformatics
>> -> Medical/Biometrics
>> -> Sociology
>> Simple examples
>> Mark-recapcture
>> Growth models
>> Stock assessment
>> Spatial models
>> State space models
>> GLM (Generalized linear models)
>> GLMM (Generalized linear mixed models)
>> Survivial analysis
>> Differential equations
>> Categorial data
>>
>> Any other topics?
>>
>> John: will existing pages be re-styled automatically, or is it effient
>>
> to wait
>
>> until the new look for the webpages is in place?
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Fra: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>> Sendt: ti 08.12.2009 18:05
>> Til: Hans Julius Skaug
>> Kopi: developers at admb-project.org
>> Emne: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>> The Examples tab is now on-line.
>>
>> A agree with you about creating a model taxonomy. We should think
>>
> about
>
>> ways to feature models on our site that have capabilities not
>>
> otherwise
>
>> available in the other packages. You seem to have proposed a
>> two-dimensional taxonmy. Your first dimension is general classes of
>> application and your second is ADMB features. We might consider adding
>> scientific discipline to the first axis. New potential users may
>>
> stumble
>
>> into the site and wonder "What can this do for me as an ecologist (or
>> sociologist, ...)?"
>>
>> Thanks for taking this on.
>> John
>>
>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Yes, I will take a lead on this, but moving all the examples
>>> may take time. And yes, it is good to take
>>> this as a part of the bigger descussion about web site design.
>>>
>>> I am in favor of placing the examples on a top level,
>>> but a second level is also OK. An equally important
>>> question is how to create a model taxonomy. My suggestion is
>>> to use fairly wide topics, like differential equations, growth
>>>
> curves, etc.
>
>>> I imagine 10 - 20 topics on this level. The sublevels are harder
>>> to imagine.
>>>
>>> The alternative is to create topics that are closer
>>> to the inner working of ADMB: funnels, random effects,
>>> mcmc etc. I my opinion that is more natural in the user manual,
>>> but not so much at the website.
>>>
>>> Suggestion: use the former taxonomy, and lest every posted model have
>>> a short ingress telling which ADMB features are being used.
>>> People put models on their own web-pages, and post
>>> the ingress (containing and url) to the mailing list, where it is
>>>
> picked
>
>>> up by us (me) and posted on our web site. At a later stage
>>> the example can be fully uploaded to our website.
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:50 PM
>>>> To: Hans Julius Skaug
>>>> Cc: developers at admb-project.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>>>
>>>> Seems like a good idea to me (especially if Hans is willing to take
>>>>
> on
>
>>>> the job).
>>>>
>>>> Before creating yet another tab, though, it is worth
>>>> considering whether
>>>> the current organization of material is what we want. We are
>>>> creating a
>>>> new "look" for admb-project.org which should be available for
>>>> inspection
>>>> in a couple of weeks. It will eliminate the tabs (which many feel
>>>>
> are
>
>>>> rater clunky) in favor of a more conventional menu list on the
>>>> left. You
>>>> can see a preliminary version of the new site
>>>>
>>>>
> http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/Illust/admb_dev/admb-project-template.htm
>
>>>> (It has change a lot since this version, but the layout will be
>>>> similar.) So now is a good time to think about the
>>>> organization of stuff
>>>> on the site.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Examples (with admb files) are scattered around the website,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and are not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> very visible. This issue has been raised from time to time.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about creating an Examples tab at the top level (along
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> with Documentation, Courses, etc)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Second: agree on some kind of taxonomy of models. Third:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> maintain a list of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> pointers to webpages where people put up their own models on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> their own webpages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If we agree, and the tab is created, then I will take on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> moving/organizing all the random effects examples.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hans
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Developers mailing list
>>>>> Developers at admb-project.org
>>>>> http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/developers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John Sibert
>>>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>>>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>>>
>>>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> John Sibert
>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>
>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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John Sibert
Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
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