[Developers] Website: example collection
John Sibert
sibert at hawaii.edu
Mon Dec 14 14:48:03 PST 2009
Hi Hans,
Thanks for taking this on. It is a promising start.
The keywords might need a bit more explanation, though.
Cheers,
John
Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have now populated Examples. I have included an instruction for
> how users can submit abstracts for their own examples, and provide
> keywords for their models ("categories" in the Plone terminology)
> that can be used to group models of similar keywords.
>
> There is still little content, but it will come over time.
>
> Hans
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:11 PM
>> To: Hans Julius Skaug
>> Cc: developers at admb-project.org
>> Subject: Re: SV: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>
>> Hi Hans -
>>
>> Your proposed categories seem like an excellent and practical way to
>> start. I'm sure adjustments can be made as this project proceeds.
>>
>> As I understand the change in the website, most of the changes will
>> occur in the css files, and existing content will be simply
>> reformatted.
>> The text on the "home" page will be redrafted, however.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I will try to populate Examples rather quickly, altthough
>>>
>> only with categories
>>
>>> in the beginning. What about the following categories?
>>>
>>> Scientific discipline
>>> -> Ecology
>>> -> Economics/econometrics
>>> -> Fisheries
>>> -> Genetics/Bioinformatics
>>> -> Medical/Biometrics
>>> -> Sociology
>>> Simple examples
>>> Mark-recapcture
>>> Growth models
>>> Stock assessment
>>> Spatial models
>>> State space models
>>> GLM (Generalized linear models)
>>> GLMM (Generalized linear mixed models)
>>> Survivial analysis
>>> Differential equations
>>> Categorial data
>>>
>>> Any other topics?
>>>
>>> John: will existing pages be re-styled automatically, or is
>>>
>> it effient to wait
>>
>>> until the new look for the webpages is in place?
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> Fra: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>>> Sendt: ti 08.12.2009 18:05
>>> Til: Hans Julius Skaug
>>> Kopi: developers at admb-project.org
>>> Emne: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>> The Examples tab is now on-line.
>>>
>>> A agree with you about creating a model taxonomy. We should
>>>
>> think about
>>
>>> ways to feature models on our site that have capabilities
>>>
>> not otherwise
>>
>>> available in the other packages. You seem to have proposed a
>>> two-dimensional taxonmy. Your first dimension is general classes of
>>> application and your second is ADMB features. We might
>>>
>> consider adding
>>
>>> scientific discipline to the first axis. New potential users
>>>
>> may stumble
>>
>>> into the site and wonder "What can this do for me as an ecologist (or
>>> sociologist, ...)?"
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking this on.
>>> John
>>>
>>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I will take a lead on this, but moving all the examples
>>>> may take time. And yes, it is good to take
>>>> this as a part of the bigger descussion about web site design.
>>>>
>>>> I am in favor of placing the examples on a top level,
>>>> but a second level is also OK. An equally important
>>>> question is how to create a model taxonomy. My suggestion is
>>>> to use fairly wide topics, like differential equations,
>>>>
>> growth curves, etc.
>>
>>>> I imagine 10 - 20 topics on this level. The sublevels are harder
>>>> to imagine.
>>>>
>>>> The alternative is to create topics that are closer
>>>> to the inner working of ADMB: funnels, random effects,
>>>> mcmc etc. I my opinion that is more natural in the user manual,
>>>> but not so much at the website.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestion: use the former taxonomy, and lest every posted
>>>>
>> model have
>>
>>>> a short ingress telling which ADMB features are being used.
>>>> People put models on their own web-pages, and post
>>>> the ingress (containing and url) to the mailing list, where
>>>>
>> it is picked
>>
>>>> up by us (me) and posted on our web site. At a later stage
>>>> the example can be fully uploaded to our website.
>>>>
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:50 PM
>>>>> To: Hans Julius Skaug
>>>>> Cc: developers at admb-project.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like a good idea to me (especially if Hans is
>>>>>
>> willing to take on
>>
>>>>> the job).
>>>>>
>>>>> Before creating yet another tab, though, it is worth
>>>>> considering whether
>>>>> the current organization of material is what we want. We are
>>>>> creating a
>>>>> new "look" for admb-project.org which should be available for
>>>>> inspection
>>>>> in a couple of weeks. It will eliminate the tabs (which
>>>>>
>> many feel are
>>
>>>>> rater clunky) in favor of a more conventional menu list on the
>>>>> left. You
>>>>> can see a preliminary version of the new site
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/Illust/admb_dev/admb-project-template.htm
>>
>>>>> (It has change a lot since this version, but the layout will be
>>>>> similar.) So now is a good time to think about the
>>>>> organization of stuff
>>>>> on the site.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Examples (with admb files) are scattered around the website,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> and are not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> very visible. This issue has been raised from time to time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about creating an Examples tab at the top level (along
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> with Documentation, Courses, etc)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Second: agree on some kind of taxonomy of models. Third:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> maintain a list of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> pointers to webpages where people put up their own models on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> their own webpages.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If we agree, and the tab is created, then I will take on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> moving/organizing all the random effects examples.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hans
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> John Sibert
>>>>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>>>>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> John Sibert
>>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>>
>>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> John Sibert
>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>
>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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University of Hawaii at Manoa
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