[Developers] Website: example collection

Hans Julius Skaug Hans.Skaug at math.uib.no
Mon Dec 14 13:14:26 PST 2009


Hi,

I have now populated Examples. I have included an instruction for
how users can submit abstracts for their own examples, and provide
keywords for their models ("categories" in the Plone terminology)
that can be used to group models of similar keywords.

There is still little content, but it will come over time.

Hans

>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu] 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:11 PM
>To: Hans Julius Skaug
>Cc: developers at admb-project.org
>Subject: Re: SV: [Developers] Website: example collection
>
>Hi Hans -
>
>Your proposed categories seem like an excellent and practical way to 
>start. I'm sure adjustments can be made as this project proceeds.
>
>As I understand the change in the website, most of the changes will 
>occur in the css files, and existing content will be simply 
>reformatted. 
>The text on the "home" page will be redrafted, however.
>
>Cheers,
>John
>
>Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I will try to populate Examples rather quickly, altthough 
>only with categories
>> in the beginning. What about the following categories?
>>  
>> Scientific discipline
>>   -> Ecology
>>   -> Economics/econometrics
>>   -> Fisheries 
>>   -> Genetics/Bioinformatics
>>   -> Medical/Biometrics 
>>   -> Sociology
>> Simple examples
>> Mark-recapcture
>> Growth models
>> Stock assessment
>> Spatial models
>> State space models
>> GLM (Generalized linear models)
>> GLMM (Generalized linear mixed models)
>> Survivial analysis
>> Differential equations
>> Categorial data
>>  
>> Any other topics?
>>  
>> John: will existing pages be re-styled automatically, or is 
>it effient to wait
>> until the new look for the webpages is in place?
>>  
>> Hans
>>
>>  
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Fra: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>> Sendt: ti 08.12.2009 18:05
>> Til: Hans Julius Skaug
>> Kopi: developers at admb-project.org
>> Emne: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>> The Examples tab is now on-line.
>>
>> A agree with you about creating a model taxonomy. We should 
>think about
>> ways to feature models on our site that have  capabilities 
>not otherwise
>> available in the other packages. You seem to have proposed a
>> two-dimensional taxonmy. Your first dimension is general classes of
>> application and your second is ADMB features. We might 
>consider adding
>> scientific discipline to the first axis. New potential users 
>may stumble
>> into the site and wonder "What can this do for me as an ecologist (or
>> sociologist, ...)?"
>>
>> Thanks for taking this on.
>> John
>>
>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>   
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Yes, I will take a lead on this, but moving all the examples
>>> may take time. And yes, it is good to take
>>> this as a part of the bigger descussion about web site design.
>>>
>>> I am in favor of placing the examples on a top level,
>>> but a second level is also OK. An equally important
>>> question is how to create a model taxonomy. My suggestion is
>>> to use fairly wide topics, like differential equations, 
>growth curves, etc.
>>> I imagine 10 - 20 topics on this level. The sublevels are harder
>>> to imagine.
>>>
>>> The alternative is to create topics that are closer
>>> to the inner working of ADMB: funnels, random effects,
>>> mcmc etc. I my opinion that is more natural in the user manual,
>>> but not so much at the website.
>>>
>>> Suggestion: use the former taxonomy, and lest every posted 
>model have
>>> a short ingress telling which ADMB features are being used.
>>> People put models on their own web-pages, and post
>>> the ingress (containing and url) to the mailing list, where 
>it is picked
>>> up by us (me) and posted on our web site. At a later stage
>>> the example can be fully uploaded to our website.
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>     
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: John Sibert [mailto:sibert at hawaii.edu]
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 5:50 PM
>>>> To: Hans Julius Skaug
>>>> Cc: developers at admb-project.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Developers] Website: example collection
>>>>
>>>> Seems like a good idea to me (especially if Hans is 
>willing to take on
>>>> the job).
>>>>
>>>> Before creating yet another tab, though, it is worth
>>>> considering whether
>>>> the current organization of material is what we want. We are
>>>> creating a
>>>> new "look" for admb-project.org which should be available for
>>>> inspection
>>>> in a couple of weeks. It will eliminate the tabs (which 
>many feel are
>>>> rater clunky) in favor of a more conventional menu list on the
>>>> left. You
>>>> can see a preliminary version of the new site
>>>> 
>http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/Illust/admb_dev/admb-project-template.htm
>>>> (It has change a lot since this version, but the layout will be
>>>> similar.) So now is a good time to think about the
>>>> organization of stuff
>>>> on the site.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Hans Julius Skaug wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Examples (with admb files) are scattered around the website,
>>>>>      
>>>>>         
>>>> and are not
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>>> very visible. This issue has been raised from time to time.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about creating an Examples tab at the top level (along
>>>>>      
>>>>>         
>>>> with Documentation, Courses, etc)?
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>>> Second: agree on some kind of taxonomy of models. Third:
>>>>>      
>>>>>         
>>>> maintain a list of
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>>> pointers to webpages where people put up their own models on
>>>>>      
>>>>>         
>>>> their own webpages.
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>>> If we agree, and the tab is created, then I will take on
>>>>>      
>>>>>         
>>>> moving/organizing all the random effects examples.
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>>> Hans
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Developers mailing list
>>>>> Developers at admb-project.org
>>>>> http://lists.admb-project.org/mailman/listinfo/developers
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>      
>>>>>         
>>>> --
>>>> John Sibert
>>>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>>>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>>>
>>>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>       
>>>  
>>>     
>>
>> --
>> John Sibert
>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>
>> Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>
>-- 
>John Sibert
>Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>University of Hawaii at Manoa
>
>Visit the ADMB project http://admb-project.org/
>
>


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