[Developers] Accessing final gradient information

Matthew Supernaw matthew.supernaw at noaa.gov
Tue Oct 2 13:02:07 PDT 2012


All,

Is there anyway to access final gradient information from the function_minimizer class. Some people I support have interest in doing this from the report section.
Thanks.






Matthew Supernaw
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> Subject: 	[New post] Julia, Matlab, and C
> Date: 	Mon, 17 Sep 2012 02:37:37 +0000
> From: 	Justin Domkes Weblog <comment-reply at wordpress.com>
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> To: 	sibert at hawaii.edu
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> 
> WordPress.com
> justindomke posted: "Julia is a new language in the same arena as Matlab 
> or R. I've had failed attempts to quit the Matlab addiction in the past, 
> making me generally quite conservative about new platforms. However, 
> I've recently been particularly annoyed by Matlab's slow spee"
> Respond to this post by replying above this line
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>    New post on *Justin Domke's Weblog*
> 
> 	
> 
> <http://justindomke.wordpress.com/author/justindomke/> 	
> 
> 
>    Julia, Matlab, and C
>    <http://justindomke.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/julia-matlab-and-c/>
> 
> by justindomke <http://justindomke.wordpress.com/author/justindomke/>
> 
> Julia <http://julialang.org/> is a new language in the same arena as 
> Matlab or R. I've had failed attempts 
> <http://justindomke.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/mandelbrot-in-scala/> to 
> quit the Matlab addiction in the past, making me generally quite 
> conservative about new platforms. However, I've recently been 
> particularly annoyed by Matlab's slow speed, evil license manager 
> errors, restrictions on parallel processes, C++ .mex file pain, etc., 
> and so I decided to check it out. It seems inevitable that Matlab will 
> eventually displaced by /something/. The question is: is that something 
> Julia?
> 
>    "We want a language that?s open source, with a liberal license. We
>    want the speed of C with the dynamism of Ruby. We want a language
>    that?s homoiconic, with true macros like Lisp, but with obvious,
>    familiar mathematical notation like Matlab. We want something as
>    usable for general programming as Python, as easy for statistics as
>    R, as natural for string processing as Perl, as powerful for linear
>    algebra as Matlab, as good at gluing programs together as the shell.
>    Something that is dirt simple to learn, yet keeps the most serious
>    hackers happy. We want it interactive and we want it compiled."
> 
> Essentially, the goal seems to be a faster, freer Matlab that treats 
> users like adults (macros!) and /doesn't require writing any .mex files 
> in C++ or Fortan/. Sounds too good to be true? I decided to try it out. 
> My comparisons are to Matlab (R2012a) and C (gcc 4.2 with -O2 and 
> -fno-builtin to prevent compile-time computations) all on a recent 
> MacBook Pro (2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 w/ 8GB RAM).
> 
> Installation was trivial: I just grabbed a pre-compiled binary 
> <https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/downloads> and started it up.
> 
> I deliberately used naive algorithms, since I am just testing raw speed. 
> It should be a fair comparison, as long as the algorithm is constant. 
> Please let me know about any bugs, though.
> 
> Click here to skip to the results <#results>.
> 
> 
>    First benchmark: Fibonnaci
> 
> % Matlab
> function f=fib(n)
>   if n <= 2
>     f=1.0;
>   else
>     f=fib(n-1)+fib(n-2);
>   end
> end
> 
> // C
> double fib(int n){
>   if(n<=2)
>     return(1.0);
>   else
>     return(fib(n-2)+fib(n-1));
> }
> 
> % julia
> function fib(n)
>   if n <= 2
>     1.0
>   else
>     fib(n-1)+fib(n-2);
>   end
> end
> 
> Clarity is basically a tie. Running them for n=30 we get:
> 
> time in matlab (fib): 14.344231
> time in c (fib):       0.005795
> time in julia (fib):   0.281221
> 
> 
>    Second benchmark: Matrix Multiplication
> 
> This is a test of the naive O(N^3) matrix multiplication algorithm.
> 
> % matlab
> function C=mmult(A,B,C)
>   [M,N] = size(A);
>   for i=1:M
>     for j=1:M
>       for k=1:M
>         C(i,j) = C(i,j) + A(i,k)*B(k,j);
>       end
>     end
>   end
> end
> 
> // C
> #define M 500
> void mmult(double A[M][M],double B[M][M], double C[M][M]){
>   //double C[M][M];
>   int i,j,k;
>   for(i=0; i<M; i++)
>     for(j=0; j<M; j++){
>       C[i][j] = 0;
>       for(k=0; k<M; k++)
> 	C[i][j] += A[i][k]*B[k][j];
>     }
> }
> 
> # julia
> function mmult(A,B)
>   (M,N) = size(A);
>   C = zeros(M,M);
>   for i=1:M
>     for j=1:M
>       for k=1:M
>         C[i,j] += A[i,k]*B[k,j];
>       end
>     end
>   end
>   C;
> end
> 
> Here, I think that Matlab and Julia and a bit clearer, and Julia wins 
> though the wonders of having "+=". The timing results on 500x500 
> matrices are:
> 
> time in matlab (matmult): 1.229571
> time in c (matmult):      0.168296
> time in julia (matmult):  0.505222
> 
> 
>    Third Benchmark: numerical quadrature
> 
> Here, we attempt to calculate the integral \int_{x=5}^{15} sin(x) dx by 
> numerical quadrature, using a simple midpoint rule with computations at 
> 10^7 points.
> 
> % matlab
> function val=numquad(lb,ub,npoints)
>   val = 0.0;
>   for x=lb:(ub-lb)/npoints:ub
>     val = val + sin(x)/npoints;
>   end
> end
> 
> // C
> double numquad(double lb,double ub,int npoints){
>   double val = 0.0;
>   int i;
>   for(i=0; i<=npoints; i++){
>     double x = lb + (ub-lb)*i/npoints;
>     val += sin(x)/npoints;
>   }
>   return(val);
> }
> 
> # julia
> function numquad(lb,ub,npoints)
>   val = 0.0
>   for x=lb:(ub-lb)/npoints:ub
>     val += sin(x)/npoints
>   end
>   val
> end
> 
> The timings are:
> 
> time in matlab (numquad): 0.446151
> time in c (numquad):      0.201071
> time in julia (numquad):  0.273863
> 
> 
>    Fourth Benchmark: Belief Propagation
> 
> Finally, I decided to try a little algorithm similar to what I actually 
> tend to implement for my research. Roughly speaking, Belief Propagation 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief_propagation> is a repeated sequence 
> of matrix multiplications, followed by normalization.
> 
> % matlab
> function x=beliefprop(A,x,N)
>   for i=1:N
>     x = A*x;
>     x = x/sum(x);
>   end
> end
> 
> // C
> void beliefprop(double A[25][25], double x[25], int N){
>   int i, n, j;
>   double x2[25];
>   for(n=0; n<N; n++){
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++){
>       x2[i]=0;
>       for(j=0; j<25; j++)
> 	x2[i] += A[i][j]*x[j];
>     }
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++)
>       x[i]=x2[i];
>     double mysum = 0;
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++)
>       mysum += x[i];
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++)
>       x[i] /= mysum;
>   }
>   return;
> }
> 
> % julia
> function beliefprop(A,x,N)
>   for i=1:N
>     x = A*exp(x);
>     x /= sum(x);
>   end
>   x
> end
> 
> Here, I think we can agree that Matlab and Julia are clearer. (Please 
> don't make fun of me for hardcoding the 25 dimensions in C.) Using a 
> matrix package for C would probably improve clarity, but perhaps also 
> slow things down. The results are:
> 
> time in matlab (beliefprop): 0.627478
> time in c (beliefprop):      0.073564
> time in julia (beliefprop):  0.489665
> 
> 
>    Fifth Benchmark: BP in log-space
> 
> In practice, Belief Propagation is often implemented in log-space (to 
> help avoid numerical under/over-flow.). To simulate an algorithm like 
> this, I tried changing to propagation to take an exponent before 
> multiplication, and a logarithm before storage.
> 
> % matlab
> function x=beliefprop2(A,x,N)
>   for i=1:N
>     x = log(A*exp(x));
>     x = x - log(sum(exp(x)));
>   end
> end
> 
> // C
> void beliefprop2(double A[25][25], double x[25], int N){
>   int i, n, j;
>   double x2[25];
>   for(n=0; n<N; n++){
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++){
>       x2[i]=0;
>       for(j=0; j<25; j++)
> 	x2[i] += A[i][j]*exp(x[j]);
>     }
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++)
>       x[i]=log(x2[i]);
>     double mysum = 0;
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++)
>       mysum += exp(x[i]);
>     double mynorm = log(mysum);
>     for(i=0; i<25; i++)
>       x[i] -= mynorm;
>   }
>   return;
> }
> 
> # julia
> function beliefprop2(A,x,N)
>   for i=1:N
>     x = log(A*exp(x));
>     x -= log(sum(exp(x)));
>   end
>   x
> end
> 
> Life is too short to write C code like that when not necessary. But how 
> about the speed, you ask?
> 
> time in matlab (beliefprop2): 0.662761
> time in c (beliefprop2):      0.646153
> time in julia (beliefprop2):  0.615113
> 
> 
>    Sixth Benchmark: Markov Chain Monte Carlo
> 
> Here, I implement a simple Metropolis algorithm. For no particular 
> reason, I use the two-dimensional distribution:
> 
> p(x) \propto \exp(\sin(5 x_1) - x_1^2 - x_2^2)
> 
> <http://justindomke.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/dist.jpg>
> 
> % matlab
> function mcmc(x,N)
> f = @(x) exp(sin(x(1)*5) - x(1)^2 - x(2)^2);
> p = f(x);
> for n=1:N
>   x2 = x + .01*randn(size(x));
>   p2 = f(x2);
>   if rand < p2/p
>     x = x2;
>     p = p2;
>   end
> end
> end
> 
> // C
> double f(double *x){
>   return exp(sin(x[0]*5) + x[1]*x[1]);
> }
> #define pi 3.141592653589793
> void mcmc(double *x,int N){
>   double p = f(x);
>   int n;
>   double x2[2];
>   for(n=0; n<N; n++){
>     // run Box_Muller to get 2 normal random variables
>     double U1 = ((double)rand())/RAND_MAX;
>     double U2 = ((double)rand())/RAND_MAX;
>     double R1 = sqrt(-2*log(U1))*cos(2*pi*U2);
>     double R2 = sqrt(-2*log(U1))*sin(2*pi*U2);
>     x2[0] = x[0] + .01*R1;
>     x2[1] = x[1] + .01*R2;
>     double p2 = f(x2);
>     if(((double)rand())/RAND_MAX< p2/p){
>       x[0] = x2[0];
>       x[1] = x2[1];
>       p = p2;
>     }
>   }
> }
> 
> % julia
> function mcmc(x,N)
> f(x) = exp(sin(x[1]*5) - x[1]^2 - x[2]^2);
> p = f(x);
> for n=1:N
>   x2 = x + .01*randn(size(x));
>   p2 = f(x2);
>   if rand() < p2/p
>     x = x2;
>     p = p2;
>   end
> end
> end
> 
> Again, I think that C is far less clear than Matlab or Julia. The 
> timings are:
> 
> time in matlab (mcmc): 7.747716
> time in c (mcmc):      0.646153
> time in julia (mcmc):  0.613223
> 
> 
>    Table
> 
>            Matlab     C     Julia
> fib        14.344   0.005   0.281
> matmult     1.229   0.168   0.505
> numquad     0.446   0.201   0.273
> bp          0.627   0.073   0.489
> bp2         0.662   0.646   0.615
> mcmc        7.747   0.646   0.613
> 
> 
>    Conclusions
> 
> I'm sure all these programs can be sped up. In particular, I'd bet that 
> an expert could optimize the C code to beat Julia on |bp2| and |mcmc|. 
> These are a test of "how fast can Justin Domke make these programs", not 
> the intrinsic capabilities of the languages. That said, Julia allows for 
> optional type declarations. I did experiment with these but found 
> absolutely no speed improvement. (Which is a good or a bad thing, 
> depending on how you look at life.)
> 
> Another surprise to me was how often Matlab's JIT managed a speed within 
> a reasonable factor of C. (Except when it didn't...)
> 
> The main thing that at Matlab programmer will miss in Julia is 
> undoubtedly plotting. The Julia designers seem to understand the 
> importance of this ("non-negotiable"). If Julia equalled Matlab's 
> plotting facilities, Matlab would be in real trouble!
> 
> Overall, I think that the killer features of freedom, kinda-sorta-C-like 
> speed, and ease of use make Julia more likely as a Matlab-killer than 
> other projects such as R, Sage, Octave, Scipy, etc. (Not to say that 
> those projects have not succeeded in other ways!) Though Julia's 
> designers also seem to be targeting current R users, my guess is that 
> they will have more success with Matlab folks in the short term, since 
> most Matlab functionality (other than plotting) already exists, while 
> reproducing R's statistical libraries will be quite difficult. I also 
> think that Julia would be very attractive to current users of languages 
> like Lush <http://lush.sourceforge.net/>. Just to never write another 
> .mex file, I'll very seriously consider Julia for new projects. Other 
> benefits such as macros, better parallelism support are just bonuses. As 
> Julia continues to develop, it will become yet more attractive.
> 
> There was an interesting discussion on Lambda the Ultimate 
> <http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4452> about Julia back when it was 
> announced
> 
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