[Developers] Google to close Google Code open source project hosting

Johnoel Ancheta johnoel at hawaii.edu
Thu Mar 12 13:48:19 PDT 2015


The ftp.admb-project.org is just a temporary download site.  Eventually,
all release
downloads will be from github which has download counters.  I will work on
this
next week.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Arni Magnusson <arnima at hafro.is> wrote:

> The migration to a new download server was discussed at the developer
> meeting in Reykjavik, while several ADMB Foundation members were connected
> with Skype.
>
> As we bid Google Code farewell, it's worth revisiting some of the points
> raised in section 6 of the report (http://admb-project.org/
> developers/workshop/reykjavik-2013/5thDevelopersWorkshopReport.pdf) where
> we said the following.
>
> [Google Code is obsolete.] It is thus necessary to consider some other way
> of making ADMB available for download. An ideal alternative service would
> offer the same benefits as Google Code, i.e.:
>
> 1. Global mirrors, so 100-200 MB can be downloaded fast
>
> 2. Complete history of all items ever uploaded
>
> 3. Very clean and simple webpage, with no instructions. Shows only the
>    current version of each item by default, but deprecated items can be
>    shown as well
>
> 4. Download counter for every item
>
> 5. Excellent filter and sort facilities. For example, searching "all
>    downloads" for "ide" gives a very clear version history of ADMB-IDE.
>
> ---
>
> I would rate our current setup (http://ftp.admb-project.org) as:
>
> 1. GOOD - no mirrors (only UCSB server) but the download speed in Iceland
>    is fine.
>
> 2. BAD - no history of releases before 11.2.
>
> 3. GOOD - it's simple all right.
>
> 4. BAD - no download counter.
>
> 5. OKAY - I guess we can place different releases in different directories
>    (named 9.1, 10.1, 11.0, 11.1, 11.2, etc.) to make them easy to find.
>
> ---
>
> The URL (http://ftp.admb-project.org) is rather odd. HTTP and FTP are two
> different protocols - and our current server is HTTP. So using "ftp" in the
> URL is misleading and problematic, much like naming an image file foo.tif
> when it's actually a jpeg file.
>
> In other words, when I type "ftp.admb-project.org" in a web browser, it
> tries for a while and then gives up, because no such FTP server is found. I
> think we should either move to a real FTP server and call it
> ftp://ftp.admb-project.org, or give the HTTP server a less ambiguous and
> less problematic name, such as http://download.admb-project.org.
>
> FTP is very primitive, almost charmingly so. HTTP can serve us better if
> the page displays download counters etc.
>
> ---
>
> In summary, should we use ftp://ftp.admb-project.org or
> http://download.admb-project.org as the main URL? Does anyone know how to
> display download counters?
>
> I think the counters are useful for the dev team, as they indicate which
> platforms are most important, guiding decisions regarding old (win32) and
> experimental (clang or something else) platforms. They also give some idea
> about ADMB usage worldwide.
>
> Arni
>
> P.S. After salvaging everything from Google Code, we should make it clear
> on the Google Code webpage that the newest version of ADMB is elsewhere.
> People are still downloading old stuff from there.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2015, Johnoel Ancheta wrote:
>
>  That was expected.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:52 AM, John Sibert wrote:
>>
>>  http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/P9kW93QcfpQ/
>>>
>>> John Sibert
>>> Emeritus Researcher, SOEST
>>> University of Hawaii at Manoa
>>>
>>
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